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Post by mpdxtreme on Jan 24, 2014 8:37:53 GMT -6
My buddies 06 Rubicon started making a serious clutch noise. I've decided that its the throw out bearing. He went to NAPA and they told him it wasnt available separately and they want almost 200 for the full clutch kit. Any ideas on where to get the bearing alone? The truck only has 70000 miles so I seriously doubt the disc, pressure plate are bad.
If we do need the complete clutch kit any suggestions as to what brand to get, what works good in these Jeeps? If I have to do a complete assembly who in town can machine the face of the flywheel? This is something that I do not want to do again anytime soon.
Any ideas what the trans/xfer case assy weights?
Greg G
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Post by Somebody on Jan 24, 2014 8:54:04 GMT -6
They are right.. the bearing doesn't come separate.. I changed mine clutch kit out on my 02 and it's not hard at all.. especially with a lift.. My clutch was actually good it was the bearing that went bad.. but if you have to tear it all down to get to the bearing you might as well change the clutch plate too..
No machining required for the flywheel unless it's got debris and marred it.. just clean it good with brake cleaner and a scrub pad..
Get a good stock brand from your local parts store.. These things don't need all that high performance stuff... Friend of mine has a truck clutch in his and it's either on or off and hardly any in between.. You want that slippage on the trails so you can feather the clutch on vertical climbs..
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Post by N2DEEP on Jan 24, 2014 9:06:55 GMT -6
I can't help as far as who sells what. Now what you didn't ask for, my opinion.  I'm not a fan of turning flywheels, especially with non adjustable clutches. Unless there is a shudder when easing off of the pedal, you have a decent surface. The problem comes in when you turn the flywheel. You have now relocated your clutch, pressure plate and throw out bearing, but no adjustment or relocation of the slave cylinder can be made. On the flip side, you can buy shims that go between the flywheel and crankshaft to put it back where it started, but it's really not a necessary procedure in most cases. |
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Post by Somebody on Jan 24, 2014 9:31:09 GMT -6
I can't help as far as who sells what. Now what you didn't ask for, my opinion. I'm not a fan of turning flywheels, especially with non adjustable clutches. Unless there is a shudder when easing off of the pedal, you have a decent surface. The problem comes in when you turn the flywheel. You have now relocated your clutch, pressure plate and throw out bearing, but no adjustment or relocation of the slave cylinder can be made. On the flip side, you can buy shims that go between the flywheel and crankshaft to put it back where it started, but it's really not a necessary procedure in most cases. Good points.. but with only 70K on the Jeep, unless he was just totally abusing the clutch in it there's no reason to change anything.. |
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Post by N2DEEP on Jan 24, 2014 9:35:27 GMT -6
No argument there. Just raising awareness to the hazards of turning the flywheel.
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Post by mpdxtreme on Jan 24, 2014 9:37:46 GMT -6
OK looks like NAPA carries the LUK brand so thats what we are going with, its their replacement clutch not the upgraded Pro Gold. I'll pass on resurfacing the flywheel becasue what N2Deep said make a whole lot of sense. Other than the clutch I put in my Toyota a few months ago, I havent messed with a manual trans that has a hydraulic clutch. Honestly the clutch is functioning perfectly its just that bearing thats making noise.
Anyway I'll take pics as we go so stay tuned. Might try to do a transmission R&R write.
Greg G
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Post by N2DEEP on Jan 24, 2014 9:41:10 GMT -6
Like Charlie said, no harm in hitting it with a scotch brite pad or bristle disc.
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Post by Somebody on Jan 24, 2014 9:59:28 GMT -6
And make sure you clean all of the rust prevention off of the new clutch plate..
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Post by Somebody on Jan 24, 2014 10:00:29 GMT -6
No argument there. Just raising awareness to the hazards of turning the flywheel. I've never actually had to turn a flywheel... Of course all of the clutches ive done are on Jeeps and Nissan PU's.. nothing big... |
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Post by N2DEEP on Jan 24, 2014 10:04:40 GMT -6
No argument there. Just raising awareness to the hazards of turning the flywheel. I've never actually had to turn a flywheel... Of course all of the clutches ive done are on Jeeps and Nissan PU's.. nothing big... Big or small, get em hot they get untrue just like a brake rotor. They will shake the hell out of it while coming off of the pedal until it locks in just like brakes would. |
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Post by mpdxtreme on Jan 24, 2014 10:07:52 GMT -6
After some reading it appears that according to a Chrysler/Jeep FSB the flywheel isnt supposed to be resurfaced. It appears that it has a very small, not noticeable to the naked eye, crown to the face that is supposed to help with clutch engagement.
As for the Jeep itself, till my friend bought it a few months ago, it had never been off road, not even a dirt road. We went over it and there was absolutely no dirt, mud, sand, etc anywhere on the underside. The cat wasnt even stained by anything. I think this is just a simple parts failure.
Greg G
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Post by Somebody on Jan 24, 2014 10:28:28 GMT -6
After some reading it appears that according to a Chrysler/Jeep FSB the flywheel isnt supposed to be resurfaced. It appears that it has a very small, not noticeable to the naked eye, crown to the face that is supposed to help with clutch engagement. As for the Jeep itself, till my friend bought it a few months ago, it had never been off road, not even a dirt road. We went over it and there was absolutely no dirt, mud, sand, etc anywhere on the underside. The cat wasnt even stained by anything. I think this is just a simple parts failure. Greg G Yep.. sounds like it.. Let us know how it goes! |
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Post by mpdxtreme on Jan 24, 2014 10:35:55 GMT -6
After some reading it appears that according to a Chrysler/Jeep FSB the flywheel isnt supposed to be resurfaced. It appears that it has a very small, not noticeable to the naked eye, crown to the face that is supposed to help with clutch engagement. As for the Jeep itself, till my friend bought it a few months ago, it had never been off road, not even a dirt road. We went over it and there was absolutely no dirt, mud, sand, etc anywhere on the underside. The cat wasnt even stained by anything. I think this is just a simple parts failure. Greg G Yep.. sounds like it.. Let us know how it goes! I'll take pics and keep this updated as we go along. I figure most people here are like me and had rather read pictures instead of looking at text.  Greg G |
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Post by mike on Jan 24, 2014 12:41:43 GMT -6
If it has an internal slave cylinder i would change it while you're in there also
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Post by mpdxtreme on Jan 24, 2014 13:25:52 GMT -6
If it has an internal slave cylinder i would change it while you're in there also OK, so I assume it has a flex line going to it, does it get disconnected? Then bleed the system when it gets reassembled? Greg G |
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