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Post by BEN on Feb 10, 2013 18:42:18 GMT -6
Chains or Straps.. Why? Personally for anything larger than the atvs, we use chains/binders.
Where do you tie down to? Usually we all use stake pockets on the trailer side, but how many people tie to recovery points vs Axle. There are pros/cons on both. I know Charlie ties to recovery points b/c otherwise his jeep looks like a freaking boat floating around... with my TTB, it's easier to use Recovery points up front, just cinch it down good... on the rear I tie to axle.
X the strap or not? This one I really don't know the answer to... If you X them, they rely on each other... but are suppose to help with crosswinds and turning.
tying down binder handles? well it's an extra layer of protection IMO.
What else is good to add for towing your rig? Add your knowledge, tips, etc to this thread.
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Post by BEN on Feb 10, 2013 18:51:14 GMT -6
trailer courteous of Somebody. Thanks again btw I always feel this is an important topic b/c I see rigs sometimes on a trailer and get nervous... I'm not saying I'm the standard by any means. I know Shrek better have this right with his 6400lbs lol.
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Post by James on Feb 10, 2013 18:52:33 GMT -6
I use chains and binders and I cross the chains. I tie to the axles because that's how I did it with atvs. Tying to the body compressed the suspension too much and would damage the shocks.
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Post by BEN on Feb 10, 2013 18:55:07 GMT -6
I use chains and binders and I cross the chains. I tie to the axles because that's how I did it with atvs. Tying to the body compressed the suspension too much and would damage the shocks. do you know a real reason to cross the chains?
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Post by James on Feb 10, 2013 19:16:55 GMT -6
From a tie down manual for military equipment: Xing front and rear is what gives you fore, aft and lateral restraint. I'm sure the gov't spent thousands of dollars on studies to figure that out.
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Post by BEN on Feb 10, 2013 19:23:00 GMT -6
From a tie down manual for military equipment: Xing front and rear is what gives you fore, aft and lateral restraint. I'm sure the gov't spent thousands of dollars on studies to figure that out. probably so. Good enough for me. Only downfall I can see is the straps/chains rely on each other that way. If one breaks/comes loose, the other will pull the load to one side or the other.
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Post by James on Feb 10, 2013 19:31:15 GMT -6
If you're doing something to cause one to break then you've got trouble either way. That's another reason I don't like tying to the frame/body. If the suspension compresses there will be slack in the tie down. That can't happen attaching to the axles.
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Post by Greg on Feb 10, 2013 19:42:05 GMT -6
From a tie down manual for military equipment: Xing front and rear is what gives you fore, aft and lateral restraint. I'm sure the gov't spent thousands of dollars on studies to figure that out. Ive been through a lot of lifting and rigging classes that included securing equipment to trailers and this is how its always been taught. I x mine front and rear, but on the front I pull the suspension down all the way to the stops to keep it from swaying on the trailer.
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Post by Somebody on Feb 10, 2013 22:50:50 GMT -6
I've actually started using the straps tied to the axles lately.. It seems to work better and is less likely to come loose when bouncing.. just bought some axle wraps for this purpose.. been working fine so far..
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Post by BEN on Feb 10, 2013 23:00:53 GMT -6
I've actually started using the straps tied to the axles lately.. It seems to work better and is less likely to come loose when bouncing.. just bought some axle wraps for this purpose.. been working fine so far.. speaking of that.... Why don't I have my Summit Straps yet??? lol
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Post by mike on Feb 11, 2013 0:16:02 GMT -6
I always see loads on semi's X'd so I figured there must be a good reason
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Post by TJNoe on Feb 19, 2013 10:07:19 GMT -6
I used ratchet straps on both the front and rear axles. I also make wheel chocks and put them under a front tire and a back tire, for just a little reasurrance and piece of mind.
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Post by Weezul on Feb 22, 2013 8:08:02 GMT -6
I used ratchet straps on both the front and rear axles. I also make wheel chocks and put them under a front tire and a back tire, for just a little reasurrance and piece of mind. The wheel chocks aren't a bad idea. I was behind Gabe when his front strap broke and the jeep rolled back and almost came off the trailer at 70 mph. He now uses chains.
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Post by grizzlyadams on Feb 22, 2013 8:22:03 GMT -6
The reason you use the "X" method is that is the only way to use 4 straps/chains and keep a load secured in all directions. It done properly it you will be pulling side to side and front to back. I made the mistake on the trip to HP and didn't "X" them. I was lazy and in a hurry. I hit an icy bridge and got trick and trailer in a slide. Got it straightened up just fine, but the Jeep slid against the side rails of the trailer. It was still tight front to back. Had I secured it with the "X: method it would not have moved.
Also I tie to the axles. This allows the suspension to absorb most road bumps and such. The straps don't loosen up and all is happy. Plus it is hard on the suspension to compress it fully for a long ride to trails. Most drives are multiple hours. And if I stop somewhere at night I don't have to loosen straps to let the suspension realx.
YMMV.
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Post by revvinkevin on Feb 22, 2013 18:54:00 GMT -6
I used to own a wrecker service, I've always tied to the axles because when you go over bumps the suspension could compress more causing the tie downs to come loose. Even if they don't come loose they will place a large shock load on the chassis when they catch. I always used an X pattern at least on the rear tie downs, this way there was no way the vehicle could shift sideways. I never had any trouble using these techniques in over 10 years.
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