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Post by jeffreylane on May 23, 2013 19:42:37 GMT -6
So I am loading things up to leave out for HP tomorrow to hit some rocks, and as I'm trying to load it on the trailer, it will not pull up onto it without the ramps. Noticed the front wheels aren't pulling. no bueno. Move it around a few times to the driveway, then back to the street, and the steering gets real tight and had to turn, almost like manual steering, and it climbs the trailer fine. I backed back down, to the driveway and back, then tried again, and no front tire movement again. Last run I had the 4 pins in the aussie broke, and I was getting the same thing with the 4wd kicking in and out. Put new pins and springs in, and it worked fine when i tested it crawling MJL' s tire. I plan to pull the front dif cover off in a bit and take a look, but just looking for ideas of things to check. I supposed to be leaving out tomorrow, and now this happens. It is a ford hp dana 44 running aussie locker and drive slugs instead of lockouts.
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Post by davidsyj on May 23, 2013 20:32:38 GMT -6
I wonder if you're having problems with your t-case? It seems like the steering gets tight and difficult to turn when your front wheels are turning. I don't know, just a thought...
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Post by Somebody on May 23, 2013 20:42:26 GMT -6
If you had pin problems before with the Aussie then I'm gonna guess it's the locker again.. Otherwise I would say maybe it's popping out of 4wd..
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Post by jeffreylane on May 23, 2013 20:52:30 GMT -6
Just took a look in the dif...Pins broke again. Now why? I put them in, everything worked, then it didn't. Possible crosspin tolerance issue?
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Post by Somebody on May 23, 2013 20:54:04 GMT -6
Just took a look in the dif...Pins broke again. Now why? I put them in, everything worked, then it didn't. Possible crosspin tolerance issue? Might be... You know that you can install those pins in backwards right?? The spring should be on the open side of the locker..
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Post by jeffreylane on May 23, 2013 20:56:32 GMT -6
yeah, that's how I had it, pin in the hole and spring in the open slots. Same locker I had in new years, so it worked good enough then to snap an axle.
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Post by jeffreylane on May 23, 2013 20:57:45 GMT -6
Really the only change was putting in the chromoly shafts
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Post by grizzlyadams on May 23, 2013 21:01:40 GMT -6
Make sure that you have enough tolerance for the locker to ratchet when not engaged. Most folks keep the shims in the carriers and it forces everything too tight. If you can't see it ratchet easily and move with no pressure from the driveline then once you add that pressure something is gonna break.
Also as others have said the pins and springs can be put in backwards.
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Post by jeffreylane on May 23, 2013 21:06:08 GMT -6
Make sure that you have enough tolerance for the locker to ratchet when not engaged. Most folks keep the shims in the carriers and it forces everything too tight. If you can't see it ratchet easily and move with no pressure from the driveline then once you add that pressure something is gonna break. Also as others have said the pins and springs can be put in backwards. Are you talking about the thrust washers?
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Post by Somebody on May 23, 2013 21:11:29 GMT -6
Make sure that you have enough tolerance for the locker to ratchet when not engaged. Most folks keep the shims in the carriers and it forces everything too tight. If you can't see it ratchet easily and move with no pressure from the driveline then once you add that pressure something is gonna break. Also as others have said the pins and springs can be put in backwards. Are you talking about the thrust washers? Yes... Aussie's do reuse them but if it's too tight you may need to take them back out.. I had a Spartan on my 44 and it didn't use the washers
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Post by grizzlyadams on May 23, 2013 21:18:51 GMT -6
Yes. Remember that it's not always a "one size fits all". A few months back I helped Noe put an Aussie in his D44. He and BJ were fighting to get it together properly. It was giving them fits. I recommended loosing a washer on each side. Once that was done it all worked like a champ. There are always tolerances and this is where I would start.
It would be easy to check to make sure it ratchets properly with them in. If not remove them and look again. My bet is you will find it all too tight and needs some slack.
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Post by jeffreylane on May 23, 2013 21:23:25 GMT -6
since all the pins broke, I won't be able to tell. Think i'll run and grab some grade 8 bolts and make some pins in the morning, jack it up and spin the wheels and see what I find.
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Post by grizzlyadams on May 23, 2013 21:27:43 GMT -6
since all the pins broke, I won't be able to tell. Think i'll run and grab some grade 8 bolts and make some pins in the morning, jack it up and spin the wheels and see what I find. Use a caliper and see what size the pins are. Then use some drill bit shanks. Make sure they are the right size! If its off even a little it will cause more issues. Although it would probably get you through the weekend.
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Post by Somebody on May 23, 2013 21:31:00 GMT -6
If you use drill bits they have to be the exact same size.. We did someones like that and it didn't work right.. and ours was just a tad smaller on one pin!
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Post by jeffreylane on May 23, 2013 22:04:40 GMT -6
If you use drill bits they have to be the exact same size.. We did someones like that and it didn't work right.. and ours was just a tad smaller on one pin! Did you have a spool in the front on new years? just doing some thinking..
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