jamison
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Post by jamison on Jul 29, 2013 21:27:59 GMT -6
My trailer I was hauling my Jeep on decided to loose a bearing on the way Saturday morning. I ditched the truck and trailer, threw everything in the Jeep and rolled on. Lesson to be learned- I know lots of us take along spare tires, but a spare hub with a bearing installed would be under $50 and would have been a huge help in this situation. So I will be putting one to the side and taking it with me on the next ride. Hope this is of value to someone else. I always keep the bearings greased well and inspected. I have never had this happen to me in all my years of towing. But it happened.  That's why my spare is mounted on a spare hub on the side of the trailer. |
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Post by blueblazer on Jul 30, 2013 7:57:55 GMT -6
I believe he was rolling around with auburnaviator. We followed them for a minute and then ran into each other again going opposite directions. Yup, he was with me. The pic of his door was from the same tree that got my windshield frame and the front driveshaft pulled apart on lower ditch. He did great though and Moose was a fantastic spotter as always! Had a blast rolling w/ these guys and the two razors that jumped in w/ us. Thanks for guiding us and putting up with my driveshaft issues. I have only had that problem one other time and that was 2 years ago in Harlan, Ky and I was bouncing the front end off the ground. I found out last night that one of my studs that hold the passenger side leaf spring to D60 was missing. |
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atx780
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Post by atx780 on Jul 30, 2013 21:54:04 GMT -6
here is the saddest carnage of all... The park is full of trash! Apparently when you can have a crowd of 2000 and become famous but you don't have to pick up after yourself..   Glad you guys had a good time at the run. I wanted to make it, but I was out of town the weekend before and I'll be out of town this coming weekend. I had to take it easy and relax!! Not to mention I was also recovering from throwing out my back!! For those of you that don't know, I'm one of the 3 guys that owns the SRRS. Let me address your quote specifically: we ran two hills in our race there. We have a limits amount of time to move from the 1st hill to the 2nd and then from the 2nd to the pavillion to announce winners and do the payouts and also annouce series standings. We request EVERY park we go to, to have several trash cans on the sides, top, and bottom of both race hills and at the bounty hills (if we have them at that event). Not to mention, we also have a different agreement with every park we go to. We do our very best to cleanup as we take down sponsor banners, race/spectator tape, and move hills. We ALSO come back the next day and visit the hills to cleanup. In this SPECIFIC case - there weren't any trash cans at the hills and we had more trash than Mark had trash cans to take it at the end of the day. We picked up several Jeep loads full, and several RZRs and Wildcats full of trashbags off the hills. When I brought it to his attention that there was more trash, he said that his guys would go back through the hills. That was Sunday and I was the one who had that conversation with Mark. It's very easy to point the finger without the correct/proper information. |
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Post by WubWub on Jul 31, 2013 4:17:44 GMT -6
here is the saddest carnage of all... The park is full of trash! Apparently when you can have a crowd of 2000 and become famous but you don't have to pick up after yourself.. Glad you guys had a good time at the run. I wanted to make it, but I was out of town the weekend before and I'll be out of town this coming weekend. I had to take it easy and relax!! Not to mention I was also recovering from throwing out my back!! For those of you that don't know, I'm one of the 3 guys that owns the SRRS. Let me address your quote specifically: we ran two hills in our race there. We have a limits amount of time to move from the 1st hill to the 2nd and then from the 2nd to the pavillion to announce winners and do the payouts and also annouce series standings. We request EVERY park we go to, to have several trash cans on the sides, top, and bottom of both race hills and at the bounty hills (if we have them at that event). Not to mention, we also have a different agreement with every park we go to. We do our very best to cleanup as we take down sponsor banners, race/spectator tape, and move hills. We ALSO come back the next day and visit the hills to cleanup. In this SPECIFIC case - there weren't any trash cans at the hills and we had more trash than Mark had trash cans to take it at the end of the day. We picked up several Jeep loads full, and several RZRs and Wildcats full of trashbags off the hills. When I brought it to his attention that there was more trash, he said that his guys would go back through the hills. That was Sunday and I was the one who had that conversation with Mark. It's very easy to point the finger without the correct/proper information. Seems like with a group so large, someone could have gone together and bought some cans to donate to a small park to help keep trails clean. Especially if a group as small as B2B can donate 4 tables. I'm just saying that if everyone that used the park did a little to help improve it, it's better for everyone in the long run. |
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Post by Jackrabbit on Jul 31, 2013 5:03:05 GMT -6
Glad you guys had a good time at the run. I wanted to make it, but I was out of town the weekend before and I'll be out of town this coming weekend. I had to take it easy and relax!! Not to mention I was also recovering from throwing out my back!! For those of you that don't know, I'm one of the 3 guys that owns the SRRS. Let me address your quote specifically: we ran two hills in our race there. We have a limits amount of time to move from the 1st hill to the 2nd and then from the 2nd to the pavillion to announce winners and do the payouts and also annouce series standings. We request EVERY park we go to, to have several trash cans on the sides, top, and bottom of both race hills and at the bounty hills (if we have them at that event). Not to mention, we also have a different agreement with every park we go to. We do our very best to cleanup as we take down sponsor banners, race/spectator tape, and move hills. We ALSO come back the next day and visit the hills to cleanup. In this SPECIFIC case - there weren't any trash cans at the hills and we had more trash than Mark had trash cans to take it at the end of the day. We picked up several Jeep loads full, and several RZRs and Wildcats full of trashbags off the hills. When I brought it to his attention that there was more trash, he said that his guys would go back through the hills. That was Sunday and I was the one who had that conversation with Mark. It's very easy to point the finger without the correct/proper information. Seems like with a group so large, someone could have gone together and bought some cans to donate to a small park to help keep trails clean. Especially if a group as small as B2B can donate 4 tables. I'm just saying that if everyone that used the park did a little to help improve it, it's better for everyone in the long run. Good posting!!!! |
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atx780
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Post by atx780 on Jul 31, 2013 5:56:11 GMT -6
Seems like with a group so large, someone could have gone together and bought some cans to donate to a small park to help keep trails clean. Especially if a group as small as B2B can donate 4 tables. I'm just saying that if everyone that used the park did a little to help improve it, it's better for everyone in the long run. Agreed (to an extent), and duly noted. We will make a concerted effort to do better in this regard by making sure the parks we visit have cans on site at the trails. We request all of them to, but clearly it doesn't always happen. However, It also seems that when your specific run (very specifically speaking of our SRRS HP race) makes a park $20,000 + in one day - that they could probably spend a little of that on the trash cans. Food for thought. Think about this also, so far this year, we have visited 8 different parks putting on events through the Southern Rock Racing Series this year, and of those 8, 4 (including this coming weekend) will be series races. Are you suggesting that we take trash cans to every park? I mean, I'm not talking about 1-2 cans... I'm talking about 10-20 cans. Seems a little much considering that we travel some 400+ miles to visit many of these parks. We just got back from helping a park open up with a bang (King Knob) in West Virginia after already having made two trips up there... Also, I don't want this to be construed as what I think Mark could/should do or didn't do... He's an awesome guy and is doing a great job with the park. He's also one of the nicest and easiest park owners to work with. What you don't know is that we initially started the SRRS to help parks offset the cost of rising insurance. That was the first thought. Second thought was to get the rockbouncers some $$ for doing what they do anyways and get them some publicity. We haven't made a dime at it yet. As a matter of fact, we've lost a LOT of money doing this. We are not a club and we don't have a staff. There are 3 of us and our families and friends who come to help at times. We also cannot adopt a park as a home park as we try to spread out and help ALL the parks. We bring in more $$ to the parks so that clubs like B2B can continue to visit these parks. We also have a VERY high operating/traveling cost... We are doing good just to stay alive. We're even paying for the insurance at Grayrock this weekend for EVERYONE to ride. We had the option to close the place down and rent it just for our race, instead we opened it up for everyone. Why, you might ask? Because we do this for the good of the sport. Hopefully one day it might also grow into a successful business, but right now it isn't. The more ya know... |
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Post by Somebody on Jul 31, 2013 7:18:44 GMT -6
Wasn't pointing fingers.. was going off what I was told by the people that do know why there was so much trash there.
My whole point is.. Even tho you make the park a lot of money in one wknd, doesn't mean you don;t have to be responsible for the trash that's left. I pay to go to parks too... does that mean I to throw my trash everywhere cause they should have trash cans on every trail and I paid my way in???
Not wanting to argue.. just have a different view on things that's all.. If I ran a business that makes radioactive waste for example.. and I decided to just dump it in the river instead of paying to have it responsibly disposed of.. that's wrong.. I know it's a weird example but ya get what I'm saying..
Here's another..
We had our run at the pavilion there was only one trash can. Members filled that up in an hour. They even made reference to it overflowing..
No one bothered to ask the office for another can or a trash bag.. instead it sat out there all night.. Of course by morning when I showed up the animals had got into it..
Did I say "well we make the park a lot of money today.. they'll take care of it"? No I asked the guy at the office for a bag and cleaned it up. I know that's a smaller scale than your thousands of people.. but it's the same concept right?
Again.. it's about being responsible for the people that you bring to the parks on official runs...
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Post by atx780 on Jul 31, 2013 7:34:52 GMT -6
Wasn't pointing fingers.. was going off what I was told by the people that do know why there was so much trash there. My whole point is.. Even tho you make the park a lot of money in one wknd, doesn't mean you don;t have to be responsible for the trash that's left. I pay to go to parks too... does that mean I to throw my trash everywhere cause they should have trash cans on every trail and I paid my way in??? Not wanting to argue.. just have a different view on things that's all.. If I ran a business that makes radioactive waste for example.. and I decided to just dump it in the river instead of paying to have it responsibly disposed of.. that's wrong.. I know it's a weird example but ya get what I'm saying.. Here's another.. We had our run at the pavilion there was only one trash can. Members filled that up in an hour. They even made reference to it overflowing.. No one bothered to ask the office for another can or a trash bag.. instead it sat out there all night.. Of course by morning when I showed up the animals had got into it.. Did I say "well we make the park a lot of money today.. they'll take care of it"? No I asked the guy at the office for a bag and cleaned it up. I know that's a smaller scale than your thousands of people.. but it's the same concept right? Again.. it's about being responsible for the people that you bring to the parks on official runs... FYI - I consider this a discussion, not an argument... and would rather continue in public forum as opposed to via phone/text/PM or anything else. You're missing my point in an effort to make yours. Let me explain: - I never said - "well I make them tons of money... and they should take care of it." If it came across that way, I either typed it wrong or you read it wrong. What that means is we aren't able to provide trash cans for every hill on every trail at every park we run. Not only do we not have the means to get the cans there along with everything else we have to bring, but we also don't have the disposable $$ for it. SO - we tell the owners ahead of times what trails we are going to use and to have cans there. We will do the rest. We DID have an arrangement with Mark for trash pickup... not to mention we DID let him know that there should be trash cans at the hills. The parks know about how many people to expect and we do our best to prepare them for it... You also may not know that we cut 2 hills last year at HP for Mark and ran a bounty hill there for the benefit of the park (got nothing from it). And you're concept is not the same at all. But let's play that game... by your logic, me asking Mark about the trash and him telling us that he'd take care of it is the same as you going to the office and asking the guy there for a bag and him giving it to you, right? If I get a flat on the side of the road, and you stop to help me... and I say "thanks, but I don't need the help... I've got it", are you going to push me out of the way to change my tire or take my word and accept my "thanks" for stopping? |
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Post by Somebody on Jul 31, 2013 7:40:24 GMT -6
Wasn't pointing fingers.. was going off what I was told by the people that do know why there was so much trash there. My whole point is.. Even tho you make the park a lot of money in one wknd, doesn't mean you don;t have to be responsible for the trash that's left. I pay to go to parks too... does that mean I to throw my trash everywhere cause they should have trash cans on every trail and I paid my way in??? Not wanting to argue.. just have a different view on things that's all.. If I ran a business that makes radioactive waste for example.. and I decided to just dump it in the river instead of paying to have it responsibly disposed of.. that's wrong.. I know it's a weird example but ya get what I'm saying.. Here's another.. We had our run at the pavilion there was only one trash can. Members filled that up in an hour. They even made reference to it overflowing.. No one bothered to ask the office for another can or a trash bag.. instead it sat out there all night.. Of course by morning when I showed up the animals had got into it.. Did I say "well we make the park a lot of money today.. they'll take care of it"? No I asked the guy at the office for a bag and cleaned it up. I know that's a smaller scale than your thousands of people.. but it's the same concept right? Again.. it's about being responsible for the people that you bring to the parks on official runs... FYI - I consider this a discussion, not an argument... and would rather continue in public forum as opposed to via phone/text/PM or anything else. You're missing my point in an effort to make yours. Let me explain: - I never said - "well I make them tons of money... and they should take care of it." If it came across that way, I either typed it wrong or you read it wrong. What that means is we aren't able to provide trash cans for every hill on every trail at every park we run. Not only do we not have the means to get the cans there along with everything else we have to bring, but we also don't have the disposable $$ for it. SO - we tell the owners ahead of times what trails we are going to use and to have cans there. We will do the rest. We DID have an arrangement with Mark for trash pickup... not to mention we DID let him know that there should be trash cans at the hills. The parks know about how many people to expect and we do our best to prepare them for it... You also may not know that we cut 2 hills last year at HP for Mark and ran a bounty hill there for the benefit of the park (got nothing from it). And you're concept is not the same at all. But let's play that game... by your logic, me asking Mark about the trash and him telling us that he'd take care of it is the same as you going to the office and asking the guy there for a bag and him giving it to you, right? If I get a flat on the side of the road, and you stop to help me... and I say "thanks, but I don't need the help... I've got it", are you going to push me out of the way to change my tire or take my word and accept my "thanks" for stopping? Call AAA!! Nobody got time for flat!!  I get your point.. and I do agree with what your saying.. and if Mark said he would take care of it he should have. But then you have us little guys who go ride and see all the trash and get crazy over it..  Maybe our next build should be trash cans for the trails.. But then Mark would have to have someone go empty them.. So I see what your talking about, if the park doesn't do their part then it won;t get done.. On another note... You said we don't know the story... but you don't post on here nor does any of the other SRRS guys.. So all we have to go by is what we here from the park and what we see.. So you really can;t blame anyone for going by what they are told..  |
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Post by WubWub on Jul 31, 2013 7:45:57 GMT -6
FYI - I consider this a discussion, not an argument... and would rather continue in public forum as opposed to via phone/text/PM or anything else. You're missing my point in an effort to make yours. Let me explain: - I never said - "well I make them tons of money... and they should take care of it." If it came across that way, I either typed it wrong or you read it wrong. What that means is we aren't able to provide trash cans for every hill on every trail at every park we run. Not only do we not have the means to get the cans there along with everything else we have to bring, but we also don't have the disposable $$ for it. SO - we tell the owners ahead of times what trails we are going to use and to have cans there. We will do the rest. We DID have an arrangement with Mark for trash pickup... not to mention we DID let him know that there should be trash cans at the hills. The parks know about how many people to expect and we do our best to prepare them for it... You also may not know that we cut 2 hills last year at HP for Mark and ran a bounty hill there for the benefit of the park (got nothing from it). And you're concept is not the same at all. But let's play that game... by your logic, me asking Mark about the trash and him telling us that he'd take care of it is the same as you going to the office and asking the guy there for a bag and him giving it to you, right? If I get a flat on the side of the road, and you stop to help me... and I say "thanks, but I don't need the help... I've got it", are you going to push me out of the way to change my tire or take my word and accept my "thanks" for stopping? Call AAA!! Nobody got time for flat!! I get your point.. and I do agree with what your saying.. and if Mark said he would take care of it he should have. But then you have us little guys who go ride and see all the trash and get crazy over it.. Maybe our next build should be trash cans for the trails.. But then Mark would have to have someone go empty them.. So I see what your talking about, if the park doesn't do their part then it won;t get done.. It also has to be said that even if there were a can at every trail head, there will always be that jackwagon that throws stuff on the ground. People suck. |
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Post by Somebody on Jul 31, 2013 7:51:16 GMT -6
Call AAA!! Nobody got time for flat!! I get your point.. and I do agree with what your saying.. and if Mark said he would take care of it he should have. But then you have us little guys who go ride and see all the trash and get crazy over it.. Maybe our next build should be trash cans for the trails.. But then Mark would have to have someone go empty them.. So I see what your talking about, if the park doesn't do their part then it won;t get done.. It also has to be said that even if there were a can at every trail head, there will always be that jackwagon that throws stuff on the ground. People suck. True.. and you can;t be responsible for every single person.. Just have to lead by example and hope it rubs off.. |
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Post by atx780 on Jul 31, 2013 8:13:21 GMT -6
On another note... You said we don't know the story... but you don't post on here nor does any of the other SRRS guys.. So all we have to go by is what we here from the park and what we see.. So you really can;t blame anyone for going by what they are told.. I just posted foo... And I set the record straight... so now ya know. Ultimately, it does make us (SRRS) look bad... wish I had known that the trash wouldn't have been picked up. I probably would have made a trip down there to take care of it myself. And I CAN blame YOU for going by what you're told in this regard, so  . I don't know everyone on here but you and I know each other well enough for you to know that I'm not one to throw trash on the ground at an offroad park (I'm usually the one picking it up!) or to leave a job undone. You should have taken up for us!! When I do something, I try my very best to do it right!! You can't say that you don't know that!! |
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Post by Somebody on Jul 31, 2013 8:26:26 GMT -6
On another note... You said we don't know the story... but you don't post on here nor does any of the other SRRS guys.. So all we have to go by is what we here from the park and what we see.. So you really can;t blame anyone for going by what they are told.. I just posted foo... And I set the record straight... so now ya know. Ultimately, it does make us (SRRS) look bad... wish I had known that the trash wouldn't have been picked up. I probably would have made a trip down there to take care of it myself. And I CAN blame YOU for going by what you're told in this regard, so . I don't know everyone on here but you and I know each other well enough for you to know that I'm not one to throw trash on the ground at an offroad park (I'm usually the one picking it up!) or to leave a job undone. You should have taken up for us!! When I do something, I try my very best to do it right!! You can't say that you don't know that!! I wasn't referring to you personally.. I was referring to the whole group. It does look bad but like you said the park should have prepared for such a big group.. I'm not kidding when I say that HP had more trash than I had ever seen at a park! So maybe that should be the #1 priority for us.. |
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Post by WubWub on Jul 31, 2013 8:28:18 GMT -6
Maybe it's just me, but until you jumped in, I had no idea who he was referring to. Both of you brought up good points and I don't think it was his intention to light anyone's tampon string. So if whoever won the extinguisher at the raffle can come put the fire out, we can go back to being shiny, happy people. |
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Post by Shadrock on Jul 31, 2013 8:33:06 GMT -6
True.. and you can;t be responsible for every single person.. Just have to lead by example and hope it rubs off.. Hey, leading by example is like good attitudes, it's contagious! I don't mind picking up, I just don't always think about it. So I'm sitting in line waiting on a few Jeeps go through obstacles and I see Bob picking up trash in the rear view mirror. The next thing I know is that I'm picking up cans and cigarette packs! Great attitudes definitely rubs off! |
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Maybe our next build should be trash cans for the trails.. But then Mark would have to have someone go empty them.. So I see what your talking about, if the park doesn't do their part then it won;t get done.. 
. I don't know everyone on here but you and I know each other well enough for you to know that I'm not one to throw trash on the ground at an offroad park (I'm usually the one picking it up!) or to leave a job undone. You should have taken up for us!! When I do something, I try my very best to do it right!! You can't say that you don't know that!!
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